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Title: Solar Flares and Prominences
Post by: Astronuc on June 18, 2005, 06:57:18 PM
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Solar flares are huge explosions on the surface of the sun, throwing out massive amount of material as matter is heated to millions of degrees in a few minutes. It can last from minutes to hours.

A Prominence is an elongated structure full of material hundreds of times cooler and denser than the surrounding corona. They are held up and insulated by huge magnetic structures and are seen as prominences at the edge of the sun against the black background of space. They can stay suspended above the photosphere for weeks and even months, but eventually become unstable. Surprisingly, rather then collapse at that point, they actually erupt!
from http://www.telescopesales.co.uk/gloss.htm

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Often associated with flares and prominences, a coronal mass ejection (CME) is the release of a huge amount of coronal material - measured in billions of tons and travelling at supersonic speeds. When they head earthwards, they have damaged satellites on their way and when they get here they can cause massive surges of power on electrical transmission lines.




Title: Re: Solar Flares and Prominences
Post by: Astronuc on June 18, 2005, 07:03:37 PM
more piccies of flares  :koala



Title: Re: Solar Flares and Prominences
Post by: Astronuc on June 18, 2005, 07:05:01 PM
Solar Prominences



Title: Re: Solar Flares and Prominences
Post by: Astronuc on September 12, 2005, 09:36:55 PM
From - http://www.solstation.com/stars/sol.htm

I found


Title: Re: Solar Flares and Prominences
Post by: Charity on September 13, 2005, 12:31:41 PM
That is just beautiful. Funny how something so beautiful can cause so much havoc to us on earth.


Title: Re: Solar Flares and Prominences
Post by: Skyjim on September 13, 2005, 05:41:41 PM
And, just to show what you can see in small amateur instruments with the right filters:

(http://home.comcast.net/~skyjim/gcproms.jpg)

A friend took this through my solar rig last June at the Grand Canyon Star Party.  The image is not as good as what you see with your eye - much crisper and more contrast on the disk details - the granularity is fairly subtle in the full size version of this image, but it's obvious to the eye.  This is an example of the size of commonly seen prominences - look tiny but still a good 5 to 8 Earth diameters tall.

Jim


Title: Re: Solar Flares and Prominences
Post by: yale on September 13, 2005, 06:58:29 PM
Jim after using his solar telescope


Title: Re: Solar Flares and Prominences
Post by: Astronuc on September 13, 2005, 07:04:26 PM
Pretty cool picture Jim.  It's nice to have a homemade picture.

Have you even seen one of the CME's when it happened?

 :koala


Title: Re: Solar Flares and Prominences
Post by: Skyjim on September 14, 2005, 12:09:51 AM
Well, Yale, I'd need TWO of those patches - I use a binoviewer.

The contrast gain vs monocular viewing is astounding!

Fortunately, my Coronado h-alpha filter is securely screwed into the lens cell of my refractor, and the front element is an energy rejection filter which effectively removes most of the the nastys even before the incoming sunlight passes through the etalon (0.8 angstrom bandpass interference filter centered on hydrogen-alpha at 656.28 nanometers).

Here's one reason I bought a Coronado - their transmission numbers are included from far IR to UV in their literature and independently verified...

http://www.coronadofilters.com/safety/halpha.htm (http://www.coronadofilters.com/safety/halpha.htm)

That, and the fact that the etalon and ER filter are front-mounted and extremely durable - unlike some other designs which put an ER out front, but require periodic replacement because the ER filter used significantly degrades over time.  (OUCH!)

Yale makes an important point though, for anyone out there fascinated by the prospect of solar observing.  If you are on a budget, the safest way to go is a projected white light image.  DO NOT attempt to cut corners on solar observing equipment and DO NOT assume a trusting attitude towards manufacturers and sellers of systems.  It's not that the market is rife with dangerous systems - it isn't, really - but poorly made, damaged, or carelessly used solar observing gear can cost you your eyesight!  NEVER use a solar filter that could fall or be knocked off a telescope, and NEVER use one which does not cover the aperture (the front end) of the telescope completely.  Check any filter for defects personally - a pinhole in a cheap filter is a prescription for disaster, and even high quality filters are subject to damage and degradation over time.  I advise emphatically to avoid used equipment.  KNOW your gear!

If this is more than you want to deal with, go to spaceweather.com and you can see lots of superb solar images at multiple wavelengths - scroll to the bottom of the spaceweather home page and you'll see lots.  I'm partial to the Big Bear Solar Observatory's "The Sun from Earth" page to get a quick look if I don't have time to set up my scope - or to check activity before heading off to show a bunch of school kids the sun in my equipment.

 Astronuc, unfortunately, I've never been in position to catch a CME.  Good thing SOHO does so well!

Jim


Title: Re: Solar Flares and Prominences
Post by: yale on September 14, 2005, 08:10:18 AM
And just to add to Jim's info...

Never, never, never, never use a solar viewer that consists solely of an eyepiece filter.

The energy MUST be rejected BEFORE it enters the scope.

A unshielded typical 8" scope would pump 30 watts of sunlight into your eyeball. Can you say hard-boiled egg?

So, echoing Jim's comments - either use a safe projection system or use only the highest quality, carefully installed and maintained direct viewing system.


Title: Re: Solar Flares and Prominences
Post by: Astronuc on September 14, 2005, 08:18:05 AM
And that 30 W would be concentrated in to about 1 mm2 which is equivalent locally to 30 MW/m2 - a lot of energy per unit area.

That's how magnifying glasses can burn or melt some materials!


Title: Re: Solar Flares and Prominences
Post by: Skyjim on September 15, 2005, 05:57:34 PM
The magnifying glass is the analogy I use to impress upon elementary school kids the nature of the risk.  All you need do is ask if they've ever seen a magnifying glass as you hold one up.  Then you look at a group of kids and ask if they've ever done anything to, say, ants with one in full sunlight.  I have yet to find a group that hasn't seen or personally performed this cruel little bit of hands-on science.  Sometimes, the fiirst hand up will be a girl - one never knows.  At that point, you simply explain that a telescope is just a fancy magnifying glass and that looking at the sun with an unfiltered scope or binos  makes your EYES the poor ant!

Generally the response is a variation of "EEEEUW!"  with a few "Cools!" thrown in by  daredevil types - but the point is made emphatically.

Jim


Title: Re: Solar Flares and Prominences
Post by: Astronuc on September 18, 2005, 02:51:12 PM
August and September have been particularly busy on the sun

There was a bouble flare and CME event (top picture) - August 22, 2005 - http://www.nasa.gov/vision/universe/watchtheskies/aug05_cme.html

A close-up of last Friday's flare (Sep 16, 2005) with the Transition Region and Coronal Explorer (TRACE) spacecraft (bottom picture). Credit: NASA/LMSAL.

For more information and movie downloads, see - http://www.nasa.gov/vision/universe/solarsystem/sept_aurora.html


Title: Re: Solar Flares and Prominences
Post by: Astronuc on September 18, 2005, 02:54:45 PM
Another flare, which I believe corresponds with one shown by Sky and Telescope.


Title: Re: Solar Flares and Prominences
Post by: Astronuc on May 13, 2006, 01:41:55 PM
Nick Strobel has an interesting picture showing the scale of the sun and planets.  But the interesting part is the huge prominence that he shows.  Jupiter would fit under the loop, and height to the outer edge of the prominence is about 2x the diameter of Jupiter.

http://www.astronomynotes.com/chapter1/s2.htm

http://www.astronomynotes.com/chapter1/sunplan.jpg

It is the same image but slightly different color shown in Reply #3 of this thread.  It was apparently taken from Skylab during the third and final mission in 1973.

 :koala


Title: Re: Solar Flares and Prominences
Post by: Astronuc on May 18, 2006, 01:29:49 PM
http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2005/27jan_solarflares.htm

January 27, 2005 - The biggest solar proton storm in 15 years erupted last week. NASA researchers discuss what it might have done to someone on the Moon.

Movie of one of the August 1972 solar flares http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2005/images/solarflares/seahorse_flare_med2.jpg

Save target as, then play it.


Title: Re: Solar Flares and Prominences
Post by: Astronuc on May 18, 2006, 11:51:06 PM
Some course notes on the Sun.

http://www-solar.mcs.st-and.ac.uk/~alan/sun_course/Introduction/Main_menu.html

from

http://www-solar.mcs.st-and.ac.uk/~alan/sun_course/solar.html


Title: Re: Solar Flares and Prominences
Post by: Astronuc on July 13, 2006, 04:55:22 AM
This caught my attention.

Time lapse movies of solar granulation evolution
http://www.kis.uni-freiburg.de/~pnb/granmovtext1.html


I also found mention of the largest solar flare ever observed.  It was so large that it overwhelmed the instrument on GOES-12.


http://www.csiro.au/csiro/content/standard/psfg,,.html

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Cheap Aussie telescope captures world’s biggest solar flare
Reference: 05/173

With a radio telescope kit, costing just over A$200, Australian scientists have managed to accurately measure the size of the largest X-ray flare ever seen from our Sun.
16 September 2005

Australian scientists using a radio telescope kit costing just over A$200, have managed to accurately measure the size of the largest X-ray flare ever seen from our Sun -- something that a sensitive US satellite was unable to do.

The astronomers published their work in the Journal of Geophysical Research on 9 September 2005.
 
The flare, which erupted on 4 November 2003, was the most powerful ever recorded.

'This is 70 percent more powerful than the initial estimate. It was a staggering amount of energy – about the amount in ten thousand trillion barrels of oil, enough to supply the world for 340,000 years at the current rate of consumption.'  :o


 :koala


Title: Re: Solar Flares and Prominences
Post by: Astronuc on April 07, 2007, 02:34:29 PM
Quite an image from Hinode -
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A detailed image of the Sun was taken by the Solar Optical Telescope on the newly launched Hinode spacecraft on November 20, 2006. It and other images, which NASA released for the first time on March 21, 2007, reveal that the Sun’s magnetic field is much more turbulent and dynamic than previously known. “For the first time, we are now able to make out tiny granules of hot gas that rise and fall in the sun's magnetized atmosphere,” said Dick Fisher, director of NASA's Heliophyics Division, Science Mission Directorate, Washington.

http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Newsroom/NewImages/Images/Hinode_2006324_lrg.jpg

http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/solar-b/SolarB_Multimedia_Collection(Search_Agent)_archive_1.html


Title: Re: Solar Flares and Prominences
Post by: Astronuc on May 06, 2007, 06:24:43 AM
Some comments on magnetic field lines in stars:

Magnetic loops rise out of the plane of the disk at any angle - the global field geometry is 'tangled'

The field lines confine and carry plasma across the disk

Reconnection and snapping of the loops releases energy into the disk atmosphere - mostly in X-rays

The magnetic field also transfers angular momentum out of the disk system.  [In the sense that mass in the form of plasma extends outward]


Title: Re: Solar Flares and Prominences
Post by: Astronuc on August 31, 2007, 08:38:35 PM
Mystery of Sun's Superhot Corona May Be Whipped (http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?chanID=sa026&ref=feedburner&articleId=B8846D2C-E7F2-99DF-3A324674FBF4FB3D)
Rippling magnetic fields finally spotted in the corona
By JR Minkel

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New measurements provide the strongest evidence yet for wriggling magnetic waves that may explain why the solar corona is a good 200 times hotter than the surface of the sun: regular pulsations in the speed of charged, high-energy gas or plasma streaming from the sun combined with matching magnetic fields.

The findings point to magnetic field ripples known as Alfvén waves whipping plasma back and forth, releasing heat, according to a report published online by Science. Although the waves seem to be too tiny to transfer the energy needed to fully heat the corona, researchers say improved measurements may reveal that the waves are larger than they appear.


Title: Re: Solar Flares and Prominences
Post by: Astronuc on October 18, 2007, 05:10:46 PM
When Sunspots Collide
http://stardate.org/resources/gallery/gallery_detail.php?id=705
http://stardate.org/resources/gallery/gallery_detail.php?id=728
 
The second picture makes one feel small when realizing how big the sun is compared to earth.