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Title: Butterflies
Post by: Astronuc on August 20, 2005, 12:58:20 PM
Well, my wife and I are seeing lots of butterflies and a few moths, bees and wasps since we started a butterfly garden.

So I am starting a general discussion thread on butterflies, and I will leave the swallowtail thread intact.

Anyway there are some cool conservatories around in which one can visit and see lots of different butterflies.

http://www.niagaraparks.com/nature/butterfly.php

The Cockrell Butterfly Center at the Houston Museum of Natural Science is a stunning, living exhibit that showcases hundreds of live butterflies in a naturalistic rainforest setting.  The central conservatory is a dramatic three-story glass cone filled with tropical plants and exotic butterflies.

http://www.hmns.org/see_do/butterfly_center.asp

http://www.hmns.org/see_do/butterfly_center/butterflies.asp


Title: Re: Butterlies
Post by: Astronuc on September 20, 2005, 04:18:09 PM
Absolutely cool  8) and spectacular  :D site if you are into butterflies (  ;D ) -

Butterflies of North America - http://www.npwrc.usgs.gov/resource/distr/lepid/bflyusa/bflyusa.htm

At least some our tax dollars are well spent.  ;D


Title: Re: Butterlies
Post by: Astronuc on September 20, 2005, 06:34:29 PM
OK - here is one or two orange butterflies I need to identify.

The first one was taken in August, and the butterlfy is in pretty good shape.

The other three was taken last weekend and the butterflies wings have been damaged.



Title: Re: Butterlies
Post by: Patty on September 20, 2005, 06:46:45 PM
My first thought is a great spangled fritillary.

http://www.images.on.ca/JayC/pages/Great_Spangled_Fritillary.htm

What do you think?

(I thought their range was only western US, however.)


Title: Re: Butterlies
Post by: Patty on September 20, 2005, 06:49:41 PM
Range: Alberta east to Nova Scotia, south to central California, New Mexico, central Arkansas, and northern Georgia.
http://www.npwrc.usgs.gov/resource/distr/lepid/bflyusa/pa/74.htm

We saw these on our rrecent trip to Yosemite. They were all over White Wolf campgrounds, where we hiked one day. I'll post a pic in a bit.


Title: Re: Butterlies
Post by: Astronuc on September 20, 2005, 07:03:14 PM
Yep, looks like you pegged that one Patty.  :1thumbup

 :koala


Title: Re: Butterlies
Post by: Patty on September 20, 2005, 07:24:38 PM
So we were in Yosemite, and decided to hike up to Harden Lake which is a 2.5 mile hike from White Wolf campground. My lasting impression from the hike was how many butterflies we saw that day that I had never seen (or rarely seen) before.

Here are 6, of the eight that I saw (two others were isolated sightings and I couldn't catch them. )

(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b78/Patty4150/butterflies.jpg)

These are, in order:

Clodius Parnassian


Title: Re: Butterlies
Post by: Patty on September 20, 2005, 07:27:04 PM
Sorry, I hit post by mistake.

These are, in order:

Clodius parnassian,     Acmon blue,     (One of the )Sulfur butterfly (at a bad angle)

Subspecies of Fritillary*     Common Buckeye (one of my faves) and California Tortoiseshell.



* which remains unidentified and doesn't appear to be a Great Spangled fritillary - some of the markings are wrong .


Title: Re: Butterlies
Post by: Astronuc on September 22, 2005, 05:09:59 AM
Here's a cool story on NPR - Following the Monarchs in an Ultralight Airplane

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4858381

Morning Edition, September 22, 2005 · Some 300 million monarch butterflies spread all over North America will soon converge on small forests in the mountains of Mexico. This year, the butterflies have unusual company -- Francisco Gutierrez. He plans to follow the monarchs' migration in a 33-foot wide utralight airplane.

Monarchs rest in Valle Del Bravo, Mexico. Each winter, the monarchs fly down to Mexico, descending in droves on the forest trees near Gutierrez's home in the Mexican state of Michocan.

In the photo gallery, there is a picture of a Monarch on a flower - which to me looks like a flower of a Buddleia davidii - and I eleieve that it is an 'Attraction'.


Title: Re: Butterlies
Post by: Patty on September 29, 2005, 01:23:56 PM
Two more monarch pics from today.

An egg (we saw it freshly laid):
(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b78/Patty4150/egg1.jpg)

And a 2nd instar (ie cute little baby) caterpillar:
(http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b78/Patty4150/monarchcat3.jpg)

The baby is only about a centimeter long.

The pupae (I posted pictures of them elsewhere)  should be emerging any day now.   :D :cheekysmiley.gif: ;D (I can't decide which happy smile is the right one.)


Title: Re: Butterlies
Post by: Astronuc on September 29, 2005, 01:36:44 PM
Cool -  :D  -  that's the smiley I prefer for joyous occasions, as well as

 :koala


Title: Re: Butterflies
Post by: Astronuc on September 30, 2005, 05:25:19 PM
OK - here's one which is basically white with some black markings on the wing tips, and it has green eyes.


Title: Re: Butterflies
Post by: Patty on September 30, 2005, 06:40:05 PM
The genus is Pieris which has so many species members it's hard to know which is which. My first guess is a mustard white, though it actually looks more like a cabbage white. http://www.chebucto.ns.ca/~aa095/NSLeps/cawh.htm

I don't know about the green eyes.

I can't finds a good comparative webpage for the whites. Google on Pieris and other terms like "whites" or "butterflies" and you may find something better than this:

http://www.answers.com/topic/whites-butterfly


Title: Re: Butterflies
Post by: Astronuc on September 30, 2005, 06:46:40 PM
Cool, thanks for the infomation Patty.

We have lots of "whites", but the differences are subtle.

They do seem to be the most common.  Hopefully next spring, our butterfly garden will be really dense, and we'll have lots of our little friends.

 :koala


Title: Re: Butterflies
Post by: Astronuc on September 30, 2005, 06:57:53 PM
Here is some more pics of one of our swallowtail caterpillars.  It disappeared shortly after these were taken.



Title: Re: Butterflies
Post by: Astronuc on October 01, 2005, 09:47:39 AM
I just saw a lone Monarch or Viceroy.  It flew past my car as I was pulling into a transfer station to drop off some garbarge and recycling.

I didn't have my digital camera with me.  :(

Next time perhaps.


Title: Re: Butterflies
Post by: Astronuc on April 15, 2006, 06:07:07 PM
Pictures from Butterfly World

http://forums.gardenweb.com/forums/load/butterfly/msg031420019447.html?10

http://www.butterflyworld.com/butterflyguide/0butterflyguide.html

from http://www.butterflyworld.com


Title: Re: Butterflies
Post by: Astronuc on June 25, 2006, 11:44:41 AM
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Every year the North American Butterfly Association sponsors a nation-wide Butterfly Count on or about the 4th of July.
  :D 8) How cool it that?!  So get out your binoculars and watch butterflies.

I got the message from - http://www.catskillnativenursery.com/Butterfly%20Day.htm

Checking the North American Butterfly Association site - NABA Butterfly Counts- http://www.naba.org/counts.html

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The NABA Butterfly Counts is an ongoing program of NABA to census the butterflies of North America (United States, Canada and partially Mexico) and to publish the results. Volunteer participants select a count area with a 15-mile diameter and conduct a one-day census of all butterflies sighted within that circle. The counts are usually held in the few weeks before or after July 4th in the U.S., July 1st in Canada and September 16th in Mexico. Maps give the location and compiler information for the individual counts. Highlights from the 2003 counts, highlights from the 2002 counts, and highlights from the 2001 counts may be found on on this web site. If you are interested in participating in your area in 2006, please contact the compiler listed and join that count for a day of fascinating butterfly counting. If there is no count in your area, you may start your own if you know how to identify the butterflies. Otherwise, inspire a nature center or butterfly club to start one for you! For more information on the count program and how to conduct a count, please write:

NABA Butterfly Counts
2533 Mc Cart
Fort Worth, TX 76110

or email NABA at naba at naba.org

But there is also - NABA Memorial Day/Victoria Day Butterfly Counts - http://www.naba.org/memvic.html

Even if one doesn't participate in the Counts, one can still watch butterflies.

http://www.naba.org/   :D

http://www.nababis.org/servlets/Sightings  :D  Far out!   :1thumbup

 :koala


Title: Re: Butterflies
Post by: Astronuc on September 29, 2006, 09:25:23 PM
Successful summer for large blue 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/5385488.stm
By Mark Kinver, Science and nature reporter, BBC News 

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UK conservationists are celebrating a successful summer for a rare butterfly, which went locally extinct in 1979.

An estimated 10,000 large blue butterflies have been recorded at sites across southern England - the largest number for at least 60 years.

Efforts to rebuild the population have been underway since 1983, when Swedish caterpillars were introduced to the UK.

Experts hope the project will show that such programmes can help other species threatened with extinction.

More than 150 scientists, conservationists and volunteers have been involved in the Large Blue Project, a partnership of 11 organisations, co-ordinated by the Centre for Ecology and Hydrology.  Dave Simcox, manager of the project, said there was still more work to be done.

"Whilst one landscape in Somerset is reasonable secure, the real challenge is to replicate this success throughout the Cotswolds, South Devon, and the Atlantic coasts of Devon and Cornwall," he explained.


 :koala