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« on: June 02, 2004, 07:45:26 AM »

http://www.spaceflightnow.com/news/n0406/01hubble/

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NASA Administrator Sean O'Keefe today announced the agency's decision to pursue the feasibility of a robotic servicing mission to the Hubble Space Telescope (HST).
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« Reply #1 on: June 02, 2004, 08:20:41 AM »

Yay the last thing that i heard was that a shuttle might be sent to fix it up.

It's good that Hubble may be saved, its pictures have been inspiring and left many people in awe. I never understood why they couldn't just push it out of orbit and let it float away slowly (once its had its lot), then in 50 years it could be picked up.
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« Reply #2 on: June 02, 2004, 10:36:20 AM »

ah, but they planned some updates already.
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« Reply #3 on: June 02, 2004, 11:08:02 AM »

NASA Weighs Robot Mission to Telescope
By KENNETH CHANG, June 2, 2004, New York Times
 
DENVER, June 1 - Four and a half months after he seemed to doom the Hubble Space Telescope by ending maintenance missions by the space shuttle, NASA's administrator, Sean O'Keefe, brought brighter news to astronomers on Tuesday by announcing that NASA was seeking proposals for a robotic mission to extend Hubble's life.

The decision is a compromise between Hubble supporters who would like Mr. O'Keefe to reinstate the shuttle mission and the initial prospect that an otherwise still useful telescope would be left to die for want of a few parts. Left alone, the telescope will be able to operate for about three more years before the failure of gyroscopes would render it unable to point at the stars.

In a speech to scientists at a meeting here of the American Astronomical Society, Mr. O'Keefe stood firm in his decision to cancel the shuttle mission, but said: "Fortunately, there may be other options for extending the Hubble's useful work. Good options that are looking more promising as we've examined them more closely. Our confidence is growing that robots can do the job."

In January, two days after President Bush laid out a vision for NASA emphasizing human exploration of the Moon and Mars, Mr. O'Keefe canceled any future shuttle missions to Hubble, citing safety concerns. The next trip, scheduled for next year, would have replaced batteries and gyroscopes and installed two new instruments.

That generated an outcry from astronomers, politicians and space enthusiasts, and NASA began examining other ways to maintain Hubble, leading to Tuesday's formal call for proposals.

Dr. Steven Beckwith, director of the Space Telescope Science Institute, which runs the telescope's science program, said a robotic mission appeared to be technically feasible. "As a scientist, I support the development of that technology very, very strongly," he said, but added that he would like planning for a shuttle mission to continue at the same time. But if a robotic mission could not install the new instruments, which is the hardest task, "I would be disappointed," he said.

Shuttle astronauts have visited Hubble four times, swapping out broken components and adding improved instruments that have enabled clearer and deeper pictures of the universe. The first mission in 1993 transformed Hubble from a technological turkey - with a flaw in the mirror that led to initial fuzziness - to a hugely successful instrument.

Mr. O'Keefe is now calling for proposals in three areas. The first is to develop a robot to dispose of Hubble; NASA had previously agreed that instead of using the shuttle to bring it back to Earth, it would develop a robotic mission to dock with the telescope and guide it to a fiery but safe re-entry into the atmosphere.

Now, with the prospect that the robot mission could also be used to perform the maintenance, NASA is calling for proposals to install new batteries and gyroscopes and to install the two improved instruments, already built at a cost of $200 million.

"What we are looking for is not autonomous robotics, but tele-robotics," Mr. O'Keefe said. "If this mission goes forward, people will still be servicing Hubble."

Proposals are due July 16. Mr. O'Keefe said he expected that NASA would take six to eight weeks to evaluate the proposals before deciding the next step in the process.

He portrayed the robotic option as a win-win solution for all. Astronomers would gain years of use of Hubble, and NASA would develop technology of use in the future. "Such a mission will open the door to more ambitious robotic activities to assemble and service massive telescopes in space, as outlined in the new vision for space exploration," Mr. O'Keefe said. "Indeed, it is a precursor to our efforts to construct advanced telescope searches for Earthlike planets and habitable environments around other stars."

Dr. Rodger Thompson, an astronomy professor at the University of Arizona and the principal investigator for Hubble's infrared camera said, "I was encouraged by the administrator's commitment to pursue a robotic option," but he added that he was disappointed that the same effort would not be applied to pursuing a possible shuttle mission.

"We would definitely like to have both options available to us," Dr. Thompson said. "I would say the science return for one mission to the Hubble Space Telescope will far exceed the science return that will result from 24 missions to the International Space Station."

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« Reply #4 on: July 02, 2004, 07:47:53 AM »

Unthinkable without Hubble. The biggest telescope, put milions of dollars, new parts ready and - costed then! From time to time press relates about it's new discoveries, really sensations. This is also a safety in nearest and - further space. Clear cifer photographs, many new appearances  in deeper space which might have also influence on us, our health, besides, that interesting. One of main signs of not only American, but Earth habitants presence in Space. Can be repaired during robotic missions, which means further developement of technology, and who knows how important it may appear one day? I am  thinking now not only about Earth industry and science developement, but also about distant Earth-like planets and missions there. As to gyroscopes, we possibly do not know how long may they work in vanity conditions, perhaps longer than predicted. Maybe also one day crew missions to Hubble will continue? This is also big effort of the humanity and who said a failure should stop us? For respect of our own achievments and for big sympathy for the Hubble; Hubble-Bubble young people say, that expression of sympathy means also how deep in our consciens The Telescope is associated with our pride of  peaceful researching The Space.    R.
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« Reply #5 on: July 02, 2004, 09:15:43 AM »

I can't believe I missed this thread...should visit more often. Even if NASA goes ahead with this plan, you have to wonder if a robotic maintenance program can be put into place in time. There are things that could go wrong with the instrument at any time.
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« Reply #6 on: July 02, 2004, 09:55:35 AM »

At the very least, NASA (or someone else) should park it in a stable orbit.  In theory, a lot of the equipment still works and could work for decades.

Later on, once we starting moving out, we could in theory move Hubble out further to Mars, or Jupiter.

Hubble should not be allowed to go the way of Skylab!
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« Reply #7 on: July 14, 2004, 11:53:36 AM »

http://www.spaceflightnow.com/news/n0407/14hubblenas/
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« Reply #8 on: July 16, 2004, 02:13:52 AM »

http://www.space.com/missionlaunches/hubble_response_040714.html

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NASA: Manned Hubble Mission Not Ruled Out, But Will Focus on Robotic Means
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« Reply #9 on: August 10, 2004, 12:58:54 PM »

http://washingtontimes.com/upi-breaking/20040810-070858-8592r.htm

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Based on months of analysis conducted by teams of engineers at Goddard Spaceflight Center in Maryland, NASA Administrator Sean O'Keefe has decided to move to the planning stage for the robotic flight, with an eye toward a critical design review next year, when agency officials will determine if the mission should receive the final go-ahead.

very interesting development. not only is this good for Hubble, this may also push the in-orbit repair of other satellites, like GEO com-sats. once the hardware is developed...
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« Reply #10 on: August 11, 2004, 07:35:22 AM »

Canadian robot could save Hubble telescope
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CAPE CANAVERAL, Fla. — NASA wants to send a robot to the rescue of its aging Hubble Space Telescope and the leading candidate is a Canadian.

Dextre, a clunky, two-armed contraption, bears little resemblance to most movie-inspired visions of a robot. But the Canadian Space Agency's own Mr. Fix-It could probably accomplish most if not all of the tasks spacewalking astronauts were meant to do, NASA officials say.

Dextre, whose name is short for dexterous, was originally designed for handiwork at the international space station. The Canadian mission that was to take Dextre to the station had been slated for 2005 but was put on hold after last year's Columbia disaster.

A final decision won't be made until next summer on whether to launch Dextre or any other robot to Hubble's rescue in 3½ years.


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« Reply #11 on: August 11, 2004, 08:35:05 AM »

 :o How many joints are that?! They think they can test it all on time? of course, they profit from experience with the Canadarm.
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« Reply #12 on: August 11, 2004, 08:44:44 AM »

They were already working on one to be launched to the ISS in 2005, so if they continued their work despite the grounding of the shuttles it should be nearly finished. They could send the original Dextre to Hubble and build a new one for the ISS, or vice verse depending on which one is the priority.

It will be expensive though... they said on the news that it would cost about $1 billion (in Canadian dollars, probably).
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« Reply #13 on: August 11, 2004, 09:15:54 AM »

what is it going to do after it has serviced hubble? burn in the atmosphere? That would be such a shame, but I guess it's got nowhere else to go
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« Reply #14 on: August 11, 2004, 10:02:19 AM »

Presumably, the Robot Repair Craft can stay attached to Hubble and be retrieved at a later date, or it could become a permanent attachment. 

Alternatively, since the Robot Repair Craft will be in orbit with Hubble, it could stay nearby parked in the vicinity of Hubble.

Or, both could be pushed to higher orbit.
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