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« Reply #15 on: December 05, 2003, 04:37:17 PM » |
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IMHO.. (notice the "H".. ) It is a matter to catch the whim. It is both a positive constructive thought as a demoralizing one.. The potential of humankind ( or is it human kind..  ) is more than needed. The only thing standing in the way is to find a way to get peeps interested in less than 3 minutes cos 4 would cost to much That is both a bliss as a curse. I *know* we can do whatever we want. Heck, why stop at the moon.. Mars is still there. only.. how to catch the whim.. the "nonchalent" manner in which budgets are distributed.. How to catch "Attention" Good luck to the shallow ones who are capable *and* on our side. We need you! Peter
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LunarOrbit
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« Reply #16 on: January 08, 2004, 02:29:19 PM » |
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The UPI is reporting that President Bush has ok'ed a plan to return to the Moon early in the next decade. If true, the announcement will be made by President Bush at NASA Headquarters next Wednesday (Jan. 14). Click here for the full story
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remcook
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« Reply #17 on: January 08, 2004, 11:00:07 PM » |
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that's super!
but..ehm....how is he going to pay for it? He is already spending way too much on military. Doesn't the US have one of the largest debts in the world?
Sure hope this will actually fly though!
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remcook
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« Reply #18 on: January 08, 2004, 11:14:22 PM » |
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*lightbulb above my head mysteriously appears*
The US can join the Aurora time-line!
Or do they want to do it all by themselves?
ideas?
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vishniac
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« Reply #19 on: January 08, 2004, 11:31:35 PM » |
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Apparently, the US would rely on Soyuz and Ariane for everything ISS-related these next years.
As for the cost, I'm sure it wouldn't take much more money to make what we dream. I'll develop that somewhere else.
People still think about countless bilions spent during the Moon Race. Remember they did First-man-in-orbit to Moon-landing in 7 years.
Not convinced?
Answering a question about a moonbase, Sean O'Keefe the other day:
"So you have an interesting concept and one we are trying to pursue and the cost, unlike what you suggested need not be staggering. "
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remcook
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« Reply #20 on: January 08, 2004, 11:56:35 PM » |
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I certainly hope so ! 
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Looter
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« Reply #21 on: January 09, 2004, 01:32:53 AM » |
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Nothing will come of this, the first step in going to the Moon is to realize the Apollo show wasn't real. Even then we have a long, long ways to go, you can rely that you wont see any people on the Moon in your lifetime, but maybe someday you will realize the truth, that wont cost anything except pride.
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vishniac
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« Reply #22 on: January 09, 2004, 01:48:48 AM » |
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Nothing will come of this, the first step in going to the Moon is to realize the Apollo show wasn't real. Even then we have a long, long ways to go, you can rely that you wont see any people on the Moon in your lifetime, but maybe someday you will realize the truth, that wont cost anything except pride. Must be painful to live without dreams. At least, you won't waste your time making efforts trying to realize them!
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yale
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« Reply #23 on: January 09, 2004, 03:53:31 AM » |
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Looter wrote: "the first step in going to the Moon is to realize the Apollo show wasn't real" What?? Are you saying that the Apollo program wasn't real in the sense that it wasn't an adequate basis for long-term settlement of Moon - mostly a stunt - OR (please let it not be so) are you saying that the Apollo program was a hoax?  yale 
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LunarOrbit
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« Reply #24 on: January 09, 2004, 02:52:23 PM » |
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I am sort of familiar with Looter from a Yahoo! Group I'm a member of. He does indeed believe Apollo was a hoax. 
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Looter
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« Reply #25 on: January 09, 2004, 10:01:59 PM » |
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10 years ago his father said he would return to the Moon, absolutely nothing happened, therefore I conclude that in 10 years time when nothing has come of this you will be no closer to realizing you cant fly to the Moon than you are now. Really the best way for you to learn that you cant fly to the Moon is to try, but you have been pretending for 30 years that you dont want to go to the Moon, thats not true, you are only fooling yourselves.
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rcable1
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« Reply #26 on: January 09, 2004, 10:08:10 PM » |
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Not us, I think we are aware of who is fooling themselves.
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vishniac
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« Reply #27 on: January 10, 2004, 12:18:17 AM » |
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Some sort of failed logic.
It reminds me of Gvant2000 on SDC:"It didn't happen thus far so it won't ever happen!"
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yale
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« Reply #28 on: January 10, 2004, 04:50:10 AM » |
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If I understand your "logic" Looter, then because the political process (rightly or wrongly) prevented any followup to Apollo (and will prevent it again) then Apollo itself didn't happen (when the political environment supported it)?
What unadulterated illogical bilge.....
Why are you wasting your brain  trapped into bogus beliefs? The universe is so jam-packed with cool stuff, WHY derail yourself into conspiracy mumbo-jumbo?
You don't know how upset I am to see someone harm themselves this way. Â [smiley=033102unsmile_1_prv.gif]
I am also dismayed by this:
"you cant fly to the Moon " What?
You appear to have gone beyond the nonsensical "hoax" crap to actually positing that space flight is somehow impossible!
[smiley=wall.gif]
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xir
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« Reply #29 on: January 10, 2004, 11:19:48 AM » |
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here here yale  , the moon landings were real as far as im concerned. Comeone weve had stuff flying to mars since1960, and had sucessful landings there since 1975, so it wouldnt be that hard even back then to pop a few peeps on the moon [smiley=thumbsup.gif]
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